Megaliths

Photographs of Megaliths by John Kuipers e.g. Stone Circles and Monuments in Great Britain

2010-09-14T21:08:00.000+02:00

John Kuipers has photographs of megaliths at his photography site at
JohnKuipers.ca, e.g. Stonehenge, and other locations too, of course.

Megaliths of India

2010-07-04T14:25:00.000+02:00

Megaliths of India

Archaeology: Megaliths

2010-04-04T00:56:00.000+02:00

Links about archaeology and the Megaliths at Cyberpursuits.com

Megalithic Alignment of Clendy - Swiltzerland

2010-04-01T16:12:00.000+02:00

Megalithic Alignment of Clendy (Switzerland)

The Megaliths of Clifden at Captivating Connacht | Irish America | IrishCentral

2010-04-01T15:10:00.000+02:00

Captivating Connacht | Irish America | IrishCentral

"Galway

Connemara, in the west of County Galway, consists of a broad peninsula between Killary Harbor and Kilkieran Bay with a laced network of lakes and is considered one of the most beautiful regions in Ireland. Its scenic coast is made up of a number of peninsulas that form picturesque craggy mountain peaks, and megalithic tombs surround its main town, Clifden. Traditionally divided into North and South Connemara by the majestic mountains of the Twelve Bens range, Connemara is marked by the boundary of the Invermore River, with expansive beaches. The region is recognizable for the breathtaking contrasts of sky, sea, land and bog." [emphasis and linksadded]

Megaliths of Israel and the Cultural Landscape: Parks Authority Makes List of Heritage Sites in Israel

2010-04-01T14:58:00.000+02:00

Israel Parks Authority draws up its own list of heritage sites - Haaretz - Israel News

Zafrir Rinat writes:

"Following a request from UNESCO, the Israel Nature and Parks Authority recently submitted a list of sites it believes constitute Israel's 'cultural landscape.' ..."

Included in the list is:

"[T]he stone circle of Rujm el-Hiri (also called Galgal Harefaim, an ancient megalithic monument in the Golan Heights)...."

Read the full story.

Megaliths of Kerala, India and the Mediterranean Link

2010-04-01T14:52:00.000+02:00

Researcher reveals Kerala's possible Mediterranean link - Oneindia News

Callanish Stones on Google Street View

2010-04-01T14:50:00.000+02:00

Callanish Stones on Google site - Press & Journal:

The world-famous Callanish Stones have been captured by Google Street View.

Landscape Archaeology in Ancient Wisconsin: Dane County's Effigy Mounds and the Megaliths as Cosmological Maps

2010-04-01T14:49:00.000+02:00

Dane County's effigy mounds are a world wonder:
by David Medaris at Isthmus.com

"Robert Birmingham was touring Ireland when he had 'a sort of epiphany.' He was visiting megaliths — large, ancient stone structures exemplified by England's Stonehenge. 'It occurred to me,' he recalls, 'that there was a connection between megaliths and the mounds here,' in Dane County [Wisconsin]....

... the massive earthworks amounted to vast 'cosmological maps,' Birmingham says."

Read the whole story about landscape archaeology here.

Birmingham's theory supports the theory by Andis Kaulins in Stars Stones and Scholars that such megalithic sites were land survey monuments sited and sighted by ancient astronomy. See also megaliths.net

Cup and Ring Marks and the Mathematics of Ancient Carvings

2010-04-01T14:40:00.000+02:00

Mathematics of ancient carvings reveals lost language - life - 01 April 2010 - New Scientist:

Kate Ravilious writes about the use of computer analysis to analyze undeciphered scripts, a method which we support - as long as it is combined with traditional methods which must be used as a check and a balance on the results - since all such computer results involve human bias in their set-up, so that nothing is ever quite as clear as it seems. Ravilious also writes:

"[Rob] Lee and his colleagues are now keen to analyse other undeciphered ancient scripts, such as the 'cup and ring' marks from the northern UK and Bronze Age petroglyphs from Scandinavia."

Mystic Culture - Kultstätten, Archäologie, Megalithkultur in Niedersachsen

2010-04-01T14:13:00.000+02:00

Mystic Culture - Kultstätten, Archäologie, Megalithkultur in Niedersachsen

Waiting for the end of the world: Georgia's 30-year stone mystery - CNN.com

2010-03-24T21:53:00.000+01:00

The unusual story of some modern megaliths in Georgia can be read at:

Waiting for the end of the world: Georgia's 30-year stone mystery - CNN.com

Erin go bragh! 15th annual Burlington Irish Heritage Festival celebrates culture on St. Patrick’s Day | The Burlington Free Press | Burlington, Vermont

2010-03-19T13:58:00.000+01:00

Erin go bragh! 15th annual Burlington Irish Heritage Festival celebrates culture on St. Patrick’s Day | The Burlington Free Press | Burlington, Vermont

"Here are the highlights; find complete schedule at www.vtirishfest.org:

FRIDAY

Lecture: Spirituality and Stones

This year’s featured speaker the Rev. Jim Gorman’s talk, “Spirituality and Stones,” will focus focuses on stone circles and megalithic tombs. The Emerald Isle is rich with these mysterious structures, many of which, like Newgrange in County Meath, were built more than 5,000 years ago. Their purpose and cultural significance is often unclear, prompting scholars like Gorman to do extensive research on the subject.

However, were it not for the Burlington Irish Heritage Festival, Gorman likely would not have the credentials to give such a lecture. The festival’s major annual fundraiser is a raffle, and the grand prize each year is two round-trip tickets to Ireland. Gorman won the prize a few years ago, and subsequently took his first trip to Ireland.

“He became passionately fascinated with the megaliths and stone circles,” Hill said. “He has researched it and gone back numerous times since, and he’s going to come be our noon lecturer because he wanted to give back.”

• If you go: Noon-1 p.m. Friday, Community Room, Fletcher Free Library. Free, donations welcome; www.fletcherfree.org; 863-3403."

Herts is ley line hotspot says ‘Hertford Camelot’ author - News - East Herts Herald

2010-03-19T13:52:00.000+01:00

Herts is ley line hotspot says ‘Hertford Camelot’ author - News - East Herts Herald

Heritage Key launches virtual Stonehenge | Easier

2010-03-19T13:19:00.000+01:00

Heritage Key launches virtual Stonehenge | Easier

Ancient World Blog: Tel Aviv Jaffa "Ramat" Archaeological Prehistoric Building Marks the "Dip" of the Big Dipper in the Prehistoric Survey of the Holy Land by Astronomy

2010-01-24T13:29:00.000+01:00

Ancient World Blog: Tel Aviv Jaffa "Ramat" Archaeological Prehistoric Building Marks the "Dip" of the Big Dipper in the Prehistoric Survey of the Holy Land by Astronomy

CARNAC: In the Footsteps of France’s First Farmers

2010-01-21T00:53:00.000+01:00

In the Footsteps of France’s First Farmers

"Carnac is a series of over 300 standing stones, spread over 4 kilometres, making up about 40 hectares. Associated excavations suggest these stone alignments are dated to between 4500 and 2500 B.C, a period that saw the beginning of sedentary existence and farming in western Europe. This makes the stones amongst the first of the monumental structures built in western Europe."

Temple of the Sun - Chase - Foz Coa

2010-01-07T18:26:00.000+01:00

Temple of the Sun - Chase - Foz Coa

ostemplosdosol.blogspot.com in English translation by Google.

Bom dia portugal Chãs equinócio Primavera 2009

Megalithic Visions is a Website about Megalithic Sites

2009-12-14T21:59:00.000+01:00

Megalithic Visions is a website about megalithic sites.

The Avebury Experience : Home

2009-11-04T01:03:00.000+01:00

The Avebury Experience : Home

The Jordan Tall Al-Umayri Megaliths Deciphered

2009-03-31T02:49:00.003+02:00

As previously reported at LexiLine, I have been able to decipher one of the megalithic sites of the region of Israel and Jordan, the megaliths of the Jordanian Temple at Tall Al-Umayri, Madaba Plains (Ma'daba), Jordan, south of Amman and east of Jerusalem. That decipherment was first uploaded to the LexiLine files and is now reproduced below (though in somewhat smaller form than at LexiLine):

The Daily Star of August 5, 2004, carried an article by Larry G. Herr entitled 3500-year-old Bronze Age temple discovered in Jordan. See also http://snipurl.com/2r57

Larry G. Herr is Prof. of Archaeology, Canadian University College, Alberta, Canada and together with Douglas R. Clark, Exec. Director, American Schools of Oriental Research, Boston, directs the Madaba Plains Project.

This project, together with the Jordan Department of Antiquities, headed by Director-General, Fawwaz al-Khraysheh, has found a temple at Tall Al-Umayri which contains a shrine of megaliths built into an ancient wall.

The temple consists of four rooms, with the megaliths being found in the largest room. The megaliths (obviously to symbolize the heavens) tower 3 meters above the heads of the temple excavators.

see
http://www.wwc.edu/academics/departments/theology/mpp/
http://snipurl.com/8caa
http://www.wwc.edu/academics/departments/theology/mpp/umayri/index.htm
http://www.utoronto.ca/tmap/

The archaeologists have dated the temple to 1500 BC. I do not know what their basis for this dating is - but my decipherment of the megaliths indicates that these stones as cupmarked may date to ca. 3117 BC.

If the walls are indeed more recent, then the original - older - megaliths were integrated into the walls of the temple many years later than their original creation.

The megaliths are carved and also have cupmarks, especially the middle large round megalithic stone, which appears to have the stars of Andromeda cupmarked on it.

To the left we find what I identify provisionally as the stars of Perseus, the Pleiades and Aries, with Taurus carved on the adjacent wall.

To the right we find possibly Lacerta, Pegasus, and Aquarius.

Above, the wall marks the Milky Way, Cassiopeia, and Cepheus.

Below we find the clear shapes of fish for Pisces and a large whale for Cetus including an apparent marking of the South Galactic Pole near Phoenix.

In the astronomical survey of the fertile crescent, we thus find - provisionally - that Jordan apparently marked Andromeda, as evidenced by the large prominent stone in the temple - the one with the stars of Andromeda cupmarked on it.

JORDAn is a name said to derive from Hebrew YARAD meaning "descend" or "flow down" and thus originally surely applied to the River Jordan.

We find the ancient Arabic name al 'ARD for Andromeda to be possibly related to JORDan (see Richard Hinckley Allen, Star Names, p. 36).

Perhaps this is origin of the astronomical line marked here at Andromeda as al RISHA, the band of the fish, which was called ARIT in Egypt, according to Renouf, an identification supported by the later Coptic ARTulosia, which referred to the moon station at Alpheratz in that same constellation Andromeda.

All of those terms are similar matching the geography to astronomy in the hermetic system.

It is thus perhaps no accident and rather the product of many thousands of years of tradition that the Madaba Mosaic Map from Madaba, Jordan (ca. 6th-7th cent. A.D.), though partially destroyed, is regarded to be one of the best ancient maps of Biblical lands.

See
http://198.62.75.1/www1/ofm/fai/FAImadmn.html
http://www.christusrex.org/www1/ofm/mad/

The Jordan Tall Al-Umayri Megaliths as Megalithic Boundary Stones

2009-03-31T02:44:00.003+02:00

In researching the ancient border stones in the Holy Land, I came upon the following interesting information about Gad, Akkad, Jordan, Amman and a host of other topics, including an ancient border treaty that was celebrated by the building of a megalithic site, about which we have posted previously at LexiLine. See the end of this posting if you are curious.

I suggest that in the ancient cuneiform texts the term uman x (UR5) is Amman, Jordan, which is Umman-manda in Akkadian, "an undetermined people" according to the Glossary of Proper Names in Mesopotamia in Douglas B. Miller and R. Mark Shipp, An Akkadian Handbook, 1996, p. 69, published by Eisenbrauns, POB 275, Winona Lake, IN, 46590, ISBN 0-931464-86-2.

The composite text of OB Nippur Ur5-ra 3 has the following entries:

334. KA-umanx(UR5)
335. umanx(UR5)
336. umanx(UR5) a
337. umanx(UR5) sag-du
338. umanx(UR5) a-šag4-ga
339. umanx(UR5) še
340. umanx(UR5) nisig
341. umanx(UR5) zi3-da
342. umanx(UR5) giš-ur3-ra
343. umanx(UR5) ŠUL

The x and the 5 are transcriptional subscripts, whereby the subscript 5 to UR means that this is a particular cuneiform sign so labelled as UR5, and which the scholars do not yet know how to differentiate from a simple UR sign. We have discovered that UR5 has a syllabic value which renders it Hebrew ARAWA, and it applied to everything EAST of the Jordan River - this was the land of GAD (i.e. AKKAD in the much more ancient period) and that is what in ancient Sumerian-Akkadian cuneiform script is written as wr.URI, UR5.RA which applied to Akkad at the time of Sargon ca. 2400 BC.

As written at the Wikipedia under Ammon :

"The ancient kingdom of Ammon was located in northwestern Arabia east of Gilead and the Dead Sea. The borders of the Ammonite territory are not uniformly defined in the Old Testament. In Judges 11:13, the claim of the king of Ammon, who demands of the Israelites the restoration of the land "from Arnon even unto Jabbok and unto Jordan" is mentioned only as an unjust claim, since the Israelite part of this tract had been conquered from the Amorite king Sihon, who had, in turn, displaced the Moabites; in Judges 11:22 it is stated that the Israelites had possession "from the wilderness even unto Jordan", and that they laid claim to territory beyond this, so as to leave no room for Ammon. The Book of Numbers 21:24 describes the Hebrew conquest as having reached "even unto the children of Ammon, for the border of the children of Ammon was Jazer." Joshua 13:25, defines the frontier of the tribe of Gad as being "Jazer ... and half the land of the children of Ammon." The latter statement can be reconciled with Num. 21:24 and Deuteronomy 2:19, 37 by assuming that the northern part of Sihon's Amorite kingdom had formerly been Ammonite. This explains, in part, the claim mentioned above (Judges, 11:13). According to Deuteronomy 2:37, the region along the river Jabbok and the cities of the hill country formed the border of Israel. On the authority of Deuteronomy 2:20, their territory had formerly been in the possession of a mysterious nation, the Zamzummim (also called Zuzim), and the war of Chedorlaomer (Gen. 14:5) with this nation may be connected with the history of Ammon. When the Israelites invaded Canaan, they passed by the frontier of the Ammonites.

From their original territory, the Ammonites are supposed to have been expelled by Sihon, king of the Amorites. Sihon was said to have been found by the Israelites, after their deliverance from Egypt, in possession of Gilead, that is, the whole country on the left bank of the Jordan, to the north of the Arnon. By this invasion, the Ammonites were driven out of Gilead across the upper waters of the Jabbok, where it flows from south to north, which continued to be their western boundary. The other limits of the Ammonites, or country of the Ammonites were not exactly defined. On the south, it probably adjoined the land of Moab; on the north, it may have met that of the king of Geshur; and on the east it may have melted away into the desert peopled by Kedarites and other nomadic tribes."

In the Bible, as can be read in Samuel, in the account of the battle involving King Saul [I claim this was Akhenaten] , Jonathon [I claim this was Tutankhamun] and the Philistines, some of the Hebrews had gone over the Jordan River "to the land of Gad and Gilead".

As written by Douglas B. Miller and R. Mark Shipp in An Akkadian Handbook, Part Three, Glossary of Proper Names in Mesopotamia, (p. 43):

"Akkad (geo) in the Ur III period, the name of the northern region, as opposed to the southern, called Sumer; in later texts anachronistically indicates Babylonia as a whole -- wr.URI, UR5.RA.":

SHIMAAAAL which in my opinion is equivalent to Sumer means "North" in ancient Arabic (comparable to Indo-European, e.g. Latvian ZIEMELI "North", rather than South, which is the Arabic term YMN, i.e. by extrapolation Yemen (Jemen). This naming of North and South pretty clearly puts the origin of the Arabs historically in the area of Saudi Arabia and that is in fact where they were located then, based on ancient maps. Saudi Arabia was called Arabia. At this time JORDAN-LAND or ARAWA was not ruled by the Arabs, but rather by Sargon, who according to the legend of Sargon, ruled "the black-headed" natives of this region: "The black-headed [people] I ruled, I gov[erned]...." Scholars have misinterpreted that text to mean that the ruling class of Sumer was also black-headed, but that is not what the text says. If Sargon's administration had also been black-headed, there would be no reason to specify the hair color of his subjects.

We get a better idea to the solution of the riddle from the Jerusalem Illustrated Dictionary and Concordance of the Bible, where it states that Akkad was listed as a city under the dominion of the fabled king Nimrod (1st book of Moses, 10,10), located in Shinar (a term for all of Mesopotamia). This is in our opinion the same as Sihon viz. Sehon in Deuteronomy, where the Kingdom of Sehon has been equated/confused with the name of the King Sihon, headquartered at Heshbon, just south of Amman. These are also the Biblical Sinites (Hebrew Sıynıy) from regions to the east of the Holy Land. The term is sometimes written Thinai suggesting an original TSINAI which equates to Indo-European e.g. Latvian CINAJ- "moundy ground".

The Wikipedia describes Shinar as follows:

"Shinar (Hebrew שִׁנְעָר Šin`ar, Septuagint Σεννααρ Sennaar) is a broad designation applied to Mesopotamia, occurring eight times in the Hebrew Bible....

In the Book of Genesis 10:10, the beginning of Nimrod's kingdom is said to have been "Babel, and Uruk, and Akkad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar." The following chapter, 11:2, states that Shinar was a plain settled after the flood, where mankind, still speaking one language, built the Tower of Babel. In Genesis 14:1,9 Shinar is the land ruled by king Amraphel, who reigned in Babylon. "Shinar" is further mentioned in Joshua 7:21; Isaiah 11:11; Daniel 1:2; and Zechariah 5:11, as a general synonym for Babylonia.

If Shinar included both Babylon ("Babel") and Erech, then "Shinar" broadly denoted southern Babylonia. Any cognate relation with Šumer, an Akkadian name used for a non-Semitic people who called themselves Kiengir, is not simple to explain and has been the subject of varied speculation. The Egyptian term for Babylonia / Mesopotamia was Sngr (Sangara), identified with the Sanhar of the Amarna letters by Sayce

Some scholars have suggested that Shinar must have been confined to the northern part of Mesopotamia (plain of Sinjar, immediately south of Mount Judi and west of Mount Nisir), based on Jubilees 9:3 which allots "Shinar" (or in the Ethiopic text, "Sadna Sena`or") to Asshur. However, 10:20 states that the Tower was built with bitumen from the sea of Shinar. Other scholars such as David Rohl, however, have proposed that the Tower was actually located in Eridu, once located on the Persian Gulf, where there are ruins of a massive, ancient ziggurat worked from bitumen.

This is where the sons of Shem, Ham and Japheth went after they tarried in the highlands of Armenia, after the flood (Vuibert, Ancient History)."

That latter sentence has application to our forthcoming posting about Gobekli Tepe, for that was the region from which the sons of Shem, Ham and Japheth came.

Akkad surely included the region north of Babylon near Sippar.

The Wikipedia writes about Sippar (a):

"Sippara (Zimbir in Sumerian, Sippar in Assyro-Babylonian) was an ancient Babylonian city on the east bank of the Euphrates, north of Babylon. It was divided into two quarters, "Sippar of the Sun-god" and "Sippar of the goddess Anunit," the former of which was discovered by Hormuzd Rassam in 1881 at Abu-Habba, 16 miles southeast of Baghdad.

Two other Sippars are mentioned in the inscriptions, one of them being "Sippar of Eden," which must have been an additional quarter of the city. It is possible that one of them should be identified with Agade or Akkad, the capital of the first Semitic Babylonian Empire.

The two Sippars of the Sun-god and Anunit are referred to in the Old Testament as Sepharvaim. A large number of cuneiform tablets and other monuments has been found in the ruins of the temple of the Sun-god which was called E-Babara by the Sumerians, Bit-Un by the Semites. The Chaldaean Noah is said by Berossus to have buried the records of the antediluvian world here--doubtless because the name of Sippar was supposed to be connected with sipru, "a writing"--and according to Abydenus (Fr. 9) Nebuchadrezzar excavated a great reservoir in the neighbourhood. Here too was the Babylonian camp in the reign of Nabonidos, and Pliny (N.H. vi. 30) states that it was the seat of a university."

As a matter of Biblical history, and I am certian that most of the Old Testament is true history, if we leave out some of the more religious parts, Akkad will be the region assigned to GAD, the seventh son of the Biblical Jacob. GAD's mother was SILPA (= SIPPAR). Today, the area assigned to the Hebrew Tribe of GAD is seen only as GILEAD , the immediate region East of the Jordan River, known in Aramaic as but that limits the area of Gad by too much, and the Bible tells us that Abraham's progeny ruled from the Euphrates to the Nile, a land which was, according to the Bible, given to the Hebrews through a covenant with God.

The reign of Sargon of Akkad and his Semitic peoples was in our view thus the reign of Gad and his progeny, which however lasted only several hundred years.

The Bible tells us that GAD and his tribe were later conquered by Ammonites (i.e. from Amman) viz. Amorites . These are perhaps the people in the OB written by the scholars as "Umman-manda", "Umman-madda" or "Umman-badda", a thus far"undetermined people", so write Miller and Shipp (p. 69). These Ammonites are later supplanted by the "Assyrians" who then ultimately drive the Tribe of Gad from the region East of the Jordan.

Jim Stinehart writes : " “Shinar” is strongly redolent of “Sanhar” and “Sangar” and “Singara”, all which historically meant “Syria” in the Late Bronze Age."

In Aram and Israel: The Aramaeans in Syria and Mesopotamia by Emil G. H. Kraeling , Columbia University Press, NY, 1918. Columbia University Oriental Studies Vol. 13; 171 pages (the link is to a modern reprint), Kraeling writes :

"We must assume therefore that Abram migrated from Harran to Palestine....

The next migration of importance is that of Jacob-Israel. Jacob's earliest seat was in Gilead, at Mizpeh. The pressure of other Aramaean tribes from the north caused him great difficulty. In the thirty-first chapter of Genesis, a document of great historical value, as we have had occasion to point out, we are told of a treaty between Jacob and Laban.... The coloring of the story is accurate, for we learn that a dolmen or cairn is erected, which Laban calls Yegar Sahdutha and Jacob, Ga'led. Dolmens, the megalithic monuments of the Indo-Europeans, are frequent in this region. What is more likely than that such a distinctive landmark of mysterious antiquity should serve as a boundary? Nor is there the least ground for supposing that the Aramaic name given the cairn by Laban is a late invention. For we have an analogy in an Aramaean Yaghra (" Hill ") near the lake of Antioch.... Another version relates that they erected a pillar (Maggebah) and called it Mizpeh. The historian's purpose is no doubt to inform us that the town of Mizpeh in Gilead, which may have been near the famous dolmen, is the site where the treaty was concluded."

I have written before about the Jordan Tall Al-Umayri Megaliths Deciphered as Astronomy, but note the kind of date we are really talking about here in terms of chronology, i.e. ca. 3000 B.C. when these border stones - according to my astronomical analysis - were fixed. After all, Laban appears in Genesis in the Old Testament, so that this ancient treaty will be very old indeed.

Megaliths at Blogger will work together with Megalithic World at WordPress

2006-03-21T21:21:00.001+01:00

Megaliths is hosted at Blogger, which converts uploaded graphic files to .jpgs and resizes them automatically, which can reduce quality.

We thus duplicate some postings at Megalithic World, hosted by WordPress.

Megaliths at Blogger Supports Megaliths.net and Megalithic World

2006-03-11T15:36:00.002+01:00

Megaliths at Blogger and Megalithic World at WordPress have been created to support our current megaliths.net website. and to substitute for megaliths.co.uk and megaliths.org, which shut down at the end of April, 2006. The enormous expense involved in maintaining these sites was not compensated for by any kind of monetary returns on our part.

Quite the contrary, we saw tremendous amounts of money being invested by society in archaeological nonsense and far lesser works than ours. See LexiLine for our discussion of a typical example, the Decipherment of the Nebra Sky Disk.

Moreover, we see evidence in scattered reports online that Google - at G-Drive - may soon be opening up the possibility of unlimited free online storage for materials such as ours.

In the interim, we will post our ideas via the free world of blogs and to such sites as Writely, a part of Google which we think will be a blockbuster application, and which thus far offers in the Beta version the possibility of posting materials for free to their site.

We already have some examples posted rightly to Writely regarding the Sumerian Temple Hymns:
The Sumerian Temple Hymns - Corrected Transcription and Reading by Andis Kaulins (still in process, and you can see there how far along I am)
Sumerian Temple Hymn - New Transcription of the Composite Text by Andis Kaulins (still in process)
Sumerian Temple Hymn Original Transcription Oxford

One great thing about Writely is that one can also open documents to collaborative work (one can choose the collaborators) and I may be trying this as I get some of the megalithic materials online. This would permit website pages to obtain an existence of their own, not dependent on any particular author, much like the Wikipedia, so that there could be ongoing correction and change of materials to suit the existing state of knowledge.

In other words, we are just changing forums, but the message will stay the same.